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Christians believe that the New Testament supplanted the Old Testament (Hebrews 8:13, Romans 7:6, Esphesians 2:15), yet there are also indications in the New Testament that the Old Testament laws should still be strictly followed (Matthew 5:17-18, James 2:10, Luke 24:44). It's one of many contradictions in the Bible.
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Texasescimo'If' or 'whosoever shall keep' are not commands. Keeping the law until it is fulfilled does not mean to keep after it is fulfilled. (Matthew 5:17, 18) Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill. 18Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law until all things take place. (Luke 24:44) He then said to them: These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled. (James 2:10) For if anyone obeys all the Law but makes a false step in one point, he has become an offender against all of it. (Deuteronomy 27:26) Cursed is the one who will not uphold the words of this Law by carrying them out. (And all the people will say, Amen!) (Galatians 3:10) All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them. James 2:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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Linda JoyDoes God lie? If I obey the law of The Tithe will God withhold from me a need? I can testify to you that when I pay my thithes I never want for anything I need and I am blessed with more than I could have imagined in ways I couldn't have anticipated! Are we ever denied the promised blessing if we keep the law its predicated upon? Now or later we will be blessed. Isn't that more important than contending technicalities? Ask God! You have that right! See James 1:5-6.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉@Texasescimo: I have no idea what point you are trying to get at, whatsoever, but thanks for contributing to the conversation.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉@Linda Joy: If a Christian believes that anyone who tithes 10% to the church will have everything they need, tithes 10% and ends up starving to death for want of food, that Christian would simply see it as God bringing them home as it was their time anyway. If an non-believer saw the same thing, the non-believer would simply explain it as the Christian God doesn't exist and therefore, no one was held to fulfill God's end of the agreement. The one exception might be an unironic Satanist, who would believe that the Christian God exists and yet still the agreement didn't work out, perhaps because of interference from their own dark lord, Satan. Either way, no one on either side of the theological divide would see the hypothetical scenario you described as proving anything.
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TexasescimoNo Linda, God does not lie. When is the last time you sacrificed an animal? Do you disagree with Paul? (Romans 10:2-4) For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. 3 For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness. (Romans 7:6) But now we have been released from the Law, because we have died to that which restrained us, in order that we might be slaves in a new sense by the spirit and not in the old sense by the written code. (Ephesians 2:15) By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, in order to make the two groups in union with himself into one new man and to make peace, (Colossians 2:13, 14) Furthermore, though you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of your flesh, God made you alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
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TexasescimoLooks like we don't give a certain amount to support the temple that was destroyed in 70 C.E. (2 Corinthians 9:7) Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. (2 Thessalonians 3:8, 9) nor did we eat anyone?s food free. On the contrary, by labor and toil we were working night and day so as not to impose an expensive burden on any one of you. 9?Not that we do not have authority, but we wanted to offer ourselves as an example for you to imitate. (Acts 18:3) and because he had the same trade, he stayed at their home and worked with them, for they were tentmakers by trade. (Acts 20:34) You yourselves know that these hands have provided for my own needs and the needs of those with me. (2 Corinthians 11:9) Yet, when I was present with you and I fell into need, I did not become a burden on anyone, for the brothers who came from Mac?e?do?ni?a abundantly supplied my needs. Yes, in every way I kept myself from becoming a burden to you and will continue to do so. (2 Thessalonians 3:8) nor did we eat anyone?s food free. On the contrary, by labor and toil we were working night and day so as not to impose an expensive burden on any one of you. (2 Thessalonians 3:10) In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: ?If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.?
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Texasescimo(2 Corinthians 2:17) We are, for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but we speak in all sincerity as sent from God, yes, in the sight of God and in company with Christ.
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TexasescimoBostjan64, did you read the verses you said contradict each other? If so, this should make sense. 'If' or 'whosoever shall keep' are not commands. Keeping the law until it is fulfilled does not mean to keep after it is fulfilled
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bostjan the adequate 🥉In Matthew Chapter 5, Jesus says to follow the laws of Moses, true or false? You aren't making any sense by saying that "whosoever shall keep the commandments" means that Old Testament Laws are not commandments. Out of all the points you could make, you chose that, which means you either are unable to apply logic or you are trying to make a dishonest argument.
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TexasescimoThe Old Covenant Laws were commandments for those under that Covenant. Those that were under the Mosaic Law Covenant as well as whosoever tries to hold on to the Old Covenant after it was fulfilled, need to be aware that they are under those under the Old Covenant were under all of it, not just the convenient parts. James 2:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 For WHOSOEVER shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. (Galatians 3:10) All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them.”
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bostjan the adequate 🥉Those verses disprove your own point.
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TexasescimoSo those that were under the Covenant and those choosing to be under the Covenant were not under all of it?
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bostjan the adequate 🥉What you are saying has nothing to do with what those verses say, and you know it.
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TexasescimoYou are taking it out of context and YOU KNOW IT. Go back and read my comment that started with: The Old Covenant Laws
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Texasescimohttps://www.dictionary.com/browse/whosoever EXAMPLES FROM THE WEB FOR WHOSOEVER But I say onto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. KEEP CHRISTMAS COMMERCIALIZED!|P. J. O’ROURKE|DECEMBER 6, 2014|DAILY BEAST Whosoever knoweth the power of the dance, dwelleth in God. CHALLENGING RELIGIOUS TRADITION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD — AND THE LOVE OF DANCE|MORAL COURAGE|JUNE 16, 2014|DAILY BEAST And whosoever would not conform themselves to the ways of the Gentiles, should be put to death: then was misery to be seen. THE BIBLE, DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION|VARIOUS Whosoever lives unmarried lives without joy, without comfort, without blessing.
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TexasescimoKing James Version (KJV) 10 For WHOSOEVER shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all . . . . bostjan64 (BJV) 10 EVERYONE shall keep the whole law, and IF THEY offend in one point, THEY ARE guilty of all
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bostjan the adequate 🥉Texasescimo: "https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whosoever EXAMPLES FROM THE WEB FOR WHOSOEVER But I say onto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. KEEP CHRISTMAS COMMERCIALIZED!|P. J. O’ROURKE|DECEMBER 6, 2014|DAILY BEAST Whosoever knoweth the power of the dance, dwelleth in God. CHALLENGING RELIGIOUS TRADITION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD — AND THE LOVE OF DANCE|MORAL COURAGE|JUNE 16, 2014|DAILY BEAST And whosoever would not conform themselves to the ways of the Gentiles, should be put to death: then was misery to be seen. THE BIBLE, DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION|VARIOUS Whosoever lives unmarried lives without joy, without comfort, without blessing." Do you have a virus or something?!
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TexasescimoSorry, I thought you might understand that whosoever looketh on a woman is not a command for everyone to looketh on a woman and did not mean that EVERYONE looketh on a woman.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉If it said in the Bible that whosoever looketh on a woman is guilty of a sin, then that'd be a command not to looketh on a woman. What point are you even trying to make?! This is just getting silly these past few comments. Are we just going to pretend that the all-caps spam messages in your comment several minutes ago just never happened?!
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TexasescimoI posted the link and copied and pasted the content. You can go to the link and skip over the small capitalized words if you like. So then you take James 2:10 as a command not to keep the whole law, right? King James Version (KJV) 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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TexasescimoA reasonable person looks at the context of both verses. Otherwise you end up with: That whosoever looketh on a woman . . . James 2:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law. . . Do not looketh on a woman . . . James 2:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 Do not keep the whole law. . .
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bostjan the adequate 🥉That maketh no sense!
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TexasescimoI just substituted 'Do not' in place of 'whosoever'
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bostjan the adequate 🥉If it says "For whosoever shall keep the law do not _____," then it is saying that if you _____, you broke the law. How is this at all difficult for you?!
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TexasescimoYeah, if that is what it said. But that is not what it says, is it? What is the point of James 2? Was Abraham under the Mosaic Law Covenant?
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bostjan the adequate 🥉James 2 says not to break any of the laws. It has nothing to do with Abraham. You keep saying that "whosoever" somehow changes the meaning of the "lawbreaker" aspect of it to fit your meaning, but the passage is clear: follow the law the best you can, and if you transgress the law, you are a lawbreaker, regardless of how unimportant you think that law you broke was.
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TexasescimoAll you get out of the whole chapter is not to break any of the laws? If Chapter 2 has nothing to do with Abraham, what translation are you looking at? (James 2:8) If, now, you carry out the royal law according to the scripture, “You must love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing quite well. (James 2:10) For if anyone obeys all the Law but makes a false step in one point, he has become an offender against all of it. (James 2:12) Keep on speaking and behaving in such a way as those do who are going to be judged by the law of a free people. (James 2:21-23) Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that his faith was active along with his works and his faith was perfected by his works, 23and the scripture was fulfilled that says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called Jehovah’s friend.
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TexasescimoSee if this helps you to get a better understanding was to what James 2 is talking about: [James states that such unjust, harsh and unkind criticism of one’s Christian brother amounts to a speaking against law and a judging of it. Earlier in his letter James refers to the “kingly law” of loving one’s neighbor and of “the law of a free people.” (Jas. 2:8, 12) So it appears that, in the section under consideration, James is not referring to the Mosaic law but to God’s law generally as it applied to the Christian congregation. As scholar Lenski points out, the word “law” in Greek is here anarthrous, that is, without the definite article “the,” and this lends support to the view that James is not referring specifically to the Mosaic law (“the law”). It may be noted, however, that the “kingly law” of loving one’s neighbor was also implicit in the Law covenant. Jesus in fact said that the whole Law (given through Moses to Israel) rested on but two commandments, love of God and love of one’s neighbor. (Compare Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 22:37-40; Romans 13:8-10.) Similarly, the “new commandment” given by Jesus also places its emphasis on such love. (John 13:34; 15:12) All the inspired Christian writings maintain that emphasis.]
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TexasescimoWhat translation of the Bible have you read? I asked you before where you claimed to have read the whole Bible and you totally skirted around it.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉"What translation of the Bible have you read? I asked you before where you claimed to have read the whole Bible and you totally skirted around it." Here we go again, I even predicted it. I'm done with this! There is no point in having this exact argument for a second time!
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TexasescimoYeah, scary question.
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Linda JoyWhat you believe is your choice. I know for a fact that God does not lie and if you keep ALL THE COMMANDMENTS you will receive ALL THE BLESSINGS upon which they are predicated. No one can convince me otherwise because I already know the truth and I won't debate this.
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Linda JoyWe cannot exercise faith if we are given proof. But I did exercise my faith without knowing for sure, because that's the way God designed it. He has proved himself to me time and time again. But atheists will argue, because they want proof. Well, keep wanting. I'm living a life crammed full of love and abundance on social security disability everyone else whines can't be done. Prove to me how that works!!
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theyre all true
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Both are true, but for Christians the New Testament is the New Covenant. https://www.openbible.info/topics/new_covenant
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Christians follow the principles in the whole Bible. We are not under the Old Covenant or Mosaic Law. (Jeremiah 31:31) Look! The days are coming, declares Jehovah, when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant. (Hebrews 8:13) In his saying a new covenant, he has made the former one obsolete. Now what is obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away. (Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉
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Texasescimo
Yes, fish without scales too! Of course I am not an Israelite living before the death of the Messiah. (Daniel 9:24-27) (Colossians 2:13, 14) Furthermore, though you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of your flesh, God made you alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14?and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake. Exodus 34:27) And Jehovah went on to say to Moses: Write down for yourself these words, because it is in accordance with these words that I do conclude a covenant with you and Israel. -
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None of those verses say to eat pork. Moses forbade it and Jesus reinforced that the laws of Moses should be practiced: Leviticus 11:7-8, Matthew 5:17-19. If the fact that you can just eat pork and ask for forgiveness means it's okay to eat pork, then how does the same logic not apply to every other sin? -
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Have you not been reading the verse that I posted? Would not a new covenant be put in place at some point? (Jer 31:31) What does Dan 9:24-27 tell you in relation to sacrifice and offering in relation to the timing of the death of the Messiah? What more can you tell me about that prophecy? If a contract is fulfilled, are those under the contract, still held by the agreements therein? If a sport figure is under contract not to drink Pepsi products UNTIL his contract with Coke is FULFILLED, does that mean he cannot drink Coke afterward? Does that mean all future sports figures cannot drink Coke either because said sport figure WAS under said agreement? You are not an ISRAELITE living before Jesus death and neither am I. I don't want to assume, but you do know that at the time Jesus said the words recorded in Matthew, Jesus and other Jews were under the Law Covenant, right? (Matthew 5:17-19) “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but TO FULFILL. 18?Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law UNTIL all things take place. 19?Whoever, therefore, breaks one of these least commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens. -
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If the words of Jesus say "sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law until all things take place," then you should go by the law until all things have come to pass. What is so difficult for you to understand about the meanings of those words? -
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Until - https://www.thefreedictionary.com/until 1. Up to the time of . . . . Fulfill (In relation to a period of time as shown by 'UNTIL' and prophecies like Jer 31;Dan 9) - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fulfill to bring to an end; finish or complete, as a period of time: -
bostjan the adequate 🥉
"until all things take place" - posting the dictionary definition of the word "until" doesn't allow you to change the words that follow "until" into whatever you want it to say! -
Texasescimo
(Daniel 9:24-27) ...27“And he will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease. “And on the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation; and until an extermination, what was decided on will be poured out also on the one lying desolate.” (Matthew 5:17-18) Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18 for I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. (Luke 16:17) Indeed, it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to go unfulfilled. (John 17:4) I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. (John 19:30) When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit. -
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You really should read the whole Bible instead of just hate sites that parrot the same old tired out of context stuff. (Romans 10:4) For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness. (Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a stake.” (Galatians 4:4, 5) But when the full limit of the time arrived, God sent his Son, who was born of a woman and who was under law, 5?that he might release by purchase those under law, so that we might receive the adoption as sons. (Galatians 4:21) Tell me, you who want to be under law, Do you not hear the Law? -
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"You really should read the whole Bible instead of just hate sites that parrot the same old tired out of context stuff." Your strategy, rather than having a meaningful conversation about anything religious, is to 1. Make blanket statement. 2. Defend blanket statement by repeating Bible verses that contradict blanket statement. 3. Try to confound anyone pointing this out by either a) posting dictionary definitions of words that are in those verses, but totally irrelevant to your point or b) repeat said Bible verses. 4. When step 3 inevitably fails, accuse anyone who disagrees with you of a) not reading the entire Bible, b) start using all capital letters, or c) start inserting spam messages or nonsense unicode characters into responses. 5. If all measures from step 4 fail, accuse the person of not understanding the Bible or being willfully obtuse for not understanding the confusing characters, capitalization, and non sequitors. 6. By then, the entire thread should be old enough for no one to care anymore, so find a new question and repeat step 1. Did I win a prize? -
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Yeah right. The world according to bostjan64. I don't believe in rainbow colored unicorns. Maybe I should follow your example and spend all of my time trying to convince people that they are not real. But then again, I don't have to take things out of context to show that they are not real. You should try the advice at Phil 4:5. -
Texasescimo
A bunch of baseless accusations but context doesn't mean anything to you. As I said when you accused me of b and c in our other thread under your answer, I posted the link and copied and pasted the content. You can go to the link and skip over the small capitalized words if you like. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whosoever -
Texasescimo
You can also refer to our comments under LizzyP where you appeared to understand that the answerbag website changes characters from certain under websites. But then again, that would invalidate your agenda. -
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My point is simple: You say you must obey all of the Bible. The Bible says not to eat pork (Leviticus 11:7-8). You say eating pork is okay, because you are not an ancient Israelite, and posted several verses, none of which had anything to do with eating pork. I refered you to Matthew 5, where Jesus teaches that you should follow the Law and then goes on to build upon the Mosaic Law with additional restrictions that go above and beyond (none of these contradict the Mosaic Law). You kept going on about the word "until" as if saying "until all things have taken place" means 'oh it's totally okay to do this now,' despite the context of Matthew 5 being totally contrary to that. -
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Pretty sure this is what I said: [Christians follow the principles in the whole Bible. We are not under the Old Covenant or Mosaic Law. ...] -
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Pretty sure I quoted the verses in question in context, although all you see is [Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets....not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the law...] Try reading the rest with a half open mind and maybe you will understand. (Daniel 9:24-27) ...27“And he will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease. “And on the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation; and until an extermination, what was decided on will be poured out also on the one lying desolate.” (Matthew 5:17-18) Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18 for I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. (Luke 16:17) Indeed, it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to go unfulfilled. (John 17:4) I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. (John 19:30) When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit.
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Follow God..... God exists within you as you.... Get in touch.
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Read James 1:5-6. Then pray and ask God. The answer may come to your mind immediately or you may be required to be patient with faith that the answer will come before it is granted. Sometimes the answer comes from the mouths of others but if it is true it will ring true in our hearts and minds as long as we live in obedience and choose to do right so we are worthy of the companionship of the Holy Ghost. But we are all entitled to the Light of Christ. That's the knowing right from wrong. Even small children know hurting people is wrong because it feels wrong. But the more evil one chooses to do anyway the less you will be able to see that light. The pure Light of Christ that IS AGAPE LOVE!
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Linda Joy
I don't have to prove it. I'm entitled to my opinion without you attacking me and every other Christian on this site. YOU DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION!! Let me ask you: If you don't believe why do you waste your time PREACHING ATHEISM to those who don't want to hear it anymore than you want to hear us preach at you? No one asked atheists for their opinion on this subject! No one asked if you believe or not. Looks like I've spent too much time away lately. You're trying to bully Christians and I'm here to defend their right to have a discussion without you trolling every answer they post!
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2 Timothy 3:16 explains that “All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial...so that every man of God may be fully competent...”. The Old Testament contains prophecies that that were fulfilled in the New Testament. It also explains God’s original purpose for humankind, the purpose of the Messiah, how we were created, the cause of human suffering and gives us beautiful descriptions of life on earth after the destruction of “the wicked one” and those under his influence. (Psa 37:10, Pro 2:22, Psa 37:28, Psa 145:20, Psa 37:34). Both parts, the Hebrew-Aramaic and the Christian Greek Scriptures, of the Bible are necessary to draw close to our God and to do his will.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉
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It's a glitch in answerbag when copying and pasting certain punctuation marks from some other sites. Ask Linda about how that works, she is the one that told me about it. Or you can just think it's a JW thing if you like. -
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It just seems like only the JW people have that problem, for some reason. I don't ever have that problem when I use quotation marks, as far as I can tell on my end. Maybe the JW online Bible has some sort of different unicode for quotation marks than the other translations, or maybe AB's software just doesn't like JW's. Whatever the case, everything looks fine now, so maybe it's a browser issue. -
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I went back and fixed it. -
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Its not just JW's. It happens when you copy in text from another editor that is not recognized by this editor. Sometimes an ' will cut off the following text entirely.
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All-Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness, so that the man or woman of God can be fully equipped in righteousness. (2 Timothy 3:16-17) We must read the Bible in context to know the Old Testament is followed in Judaism. Whereas, when we read the New Testament, it focuses on the Gentiles. John 10:16 "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd."
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At 2 Timothy 3:16,17 we read 16 All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,* for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. The Hebrew Scriptures served a purpose the bible states it was a tutor leading up to Christ 12 According to the provisions of the law that God gave Israel, regular sacrifices of bulls and goats were offered, but the continual shedding of the blood of these animals could never take away sin. (Heb. 10:4) At Galatians 3:19-25 (NW) Paul asked the question: “Why, then, the Law?” The reply is given: “It was added to make transgressions manifest, until the seed should arrive to whom the promise had been made, . . . Is the Law, therefore, against the promises of God? Never that! For if a law had been given which was able to give life, righteousness would actually have been by means of law. But the Scripture delivered up all things together to the custody of sin, that the promise resulting from faith toward Jesus Christ might be given to those exercising faith. . . . Consequently, the Law has become our tutor leading to Christ, that we might be declared righteous due to faith. But now that this faith has arrived, we are no longer under a tutor.” Perhaps even more pointedly, in Romans 10:4 (NW), Jehovah explains to us: “For Christ is the accomplished end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness.” All the various commandments of the law time after time called the attention of the Israelites to their inability to perfectly keep God’s requirements and thus gain life. But to those who were sincere and humble of heart and mind the law taught one lesson: the need for a redeemer to reconcile them to God.,that redeemer was Jesus Christ ,when he came to the earth it was to make God’s name Jehovah known, to give his life as a ransom,and to preach the kingdom .as the only hope for mankind ,to bring peace and security to the earth which Jesus gave signs to prove we are in those very times when the kingdom under Jesus Christ will act ,to get rid of wickedness ,violence .psalms 37:9-11,29
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2 Tim 3:16,17 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
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The Old testament tells us what the original purpose was for the creation of man have babies take care of the planet Earth. And then it tells us what happened when man decided to make his own rules and regulations. And then it gave the Jews some rules and regulations to live by and it proved further that man was never made to live by rules and regulations we weren't supposed to have a bunch of rules and regulations that was the whole idea don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil instead just ask God. The New testament tells us about God's plan to save us and that plan was to obey Jesus Christ and to get back to the original idea take care of the Earth take care of each other take care of the animals. But the Romans mixed their false pagan beliefs with Christian beliefs and now we have this mess that we have now there's stuff in the New testament that have been infiltrated with pagan doctrine the Old testament warns us that there would be false doctrines instituted and it tells us in advance what to look for specifically let's look at the word we call hellfire let me give you a little scripture out of the Old testament you must not teach your children that when they pass that they will go through the fire to be with the god Molech that's the God of fire by the way for such a teaching is an abomination to me it is something I did not command you to teach and it's something that will never enter my mind. So here we know in advance that the whole idea of hellfire that got put into the New testament by the Romans that's false doctrine so you look at the Old testament first to make sure that what you're reading later conforms with the original writings that God gave the Israelites and if they're different you go back to the Old testament and say no that's not what God Said so I know that it had to have been the Romans that mixed it up in the New testament
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[[ Do we follow the old testament and new testament? ]] . . . The very terminology "Old Testament" and "New Testament" indicates a Christian, in which case the New Testament sort of (only "sort of") "takes precedence" over the Old Testament. From the Christian perspective, Jewish people follow the Old Testament. . . . [[ Which is the true version to follow? ]] . . . We aren't talking about different "versions" of anything. The New Testament is not a different "version" of the Old Testament. It's a completely new "testament", a completely new Covenant. Your question is similar to asking: "We have the U.S. Constitution and the Canadian Constitution. Which is the correct version to follow?"
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You're not supposed to follow either! You're supposed to read the Old testament and study what happened to the men and the women in the past that obeyed God and about the ones that disobeyed God so that you'll have a good idea which one you want to be doing do you want to obey or do you want to disobey. The New testament is only for those people that want to obey God if you choose to disobey God you can stop with the Old testament and you can accept what's going to happen to you you will die and all your thoughts will vanish. If you choose to keep on living then you follow the New testament and you have the hope that after your old body dies that you will be part of the Resurrection on the planet Earth and be one of those people that helps to restore the planet Earth to a paradise condition no sickness no dying no pain lots of food no having to slave away every day every night paying somebody because God will give you a piece of land and the Earth will grow everything that you need the animals won't be dangerous anymore. There won't be disease anymore. The Bible speaks of a small amount of people that will go to heaven with Jesus Christ for the purpose of learning to govern the Earth and those people will come back with Jesus Christ to be on earth during the restoration period. It's not the purpose of God to come back to earth and burn the Earth up and take you to heaven forget that nonsense the Old testament tells you that that idea came out of the mouth of the devil! But there's still people today that believes in it and they're still teaching it. Where is your incentive to take care of the earth and your fellow human creature if God is going to come and burn up the Earth and take everybody to heaven seriously!
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If it ain't broke, why fix it. Follow the original.
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Old question. This is what the New Testicle, says about the Old Testicle:- Or do you not know, brothers1—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? 2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage.2 3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. 4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work kin our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
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The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed.
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The Bible, in its entirety, is a sort of "journal" that records the lineage of our God's family. By saying "our God" is to say that other gods exist, but there is only one that we are commanded to pay homage to. This journal is broken into two parts - the Old Testament and the New Testament. There are laws in the Old Testament that are still valid - such as the 10 Commandments. But for the most part, we need to be concerned more with the New Testament. It doesn't have a list of specific Commandments, but it still has guidelines that should be adhered to, many of which are rather obscure to those who aren't theologically educated. The general rule of thumb to follow is, "if you believe your behavior to be wrong, then it's wrong".
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Excellent question! The entire Bible is “inspired of God and beneficial.” (2 Timothy 3:16) That includes both the Old Testament and the New Testament, as they are commonly called. Generally, Jehovah’s Witnesses refer to these sections of the Bible as the Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Greek Scriptures. In this way, we avoid giving the impression that some parts of the Bible are outdated or irrelevant. Under divine inspiration, the Christian apostle Paul wrote: “All the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction.” (Romans 15:4) Thus, there is valuable information for us in the Hebrew Scriptures. Among other things, they provide relevant history and practical advice. The Hebrew Scriptures include a detailed record of creation and mankind’s fall into sin. Without that information, we would lack satisfying answers to such questions as: Where did we come from? Why do humans die? (Genesis 2:7, 17) Moreover, the Hebrew Scriptures record Jehovah God’s dealings with people who experienced joys and challenges similar to our own.—James 5:17. The Bible books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, which are part of the Hebrew Scriptures, contain timeless wisdom for living. They offer advice on how to enjoy happy family life (Proverbs 15:17), how to have a balanced view of work (Proverbs 10:4; Ecclesiastes 4:6), and how young people can get the best out of their youth (Ecclesiastes 11:9–12:1). Furthermore, we can benefit from studying the Mosaic Law as recorded in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible). Although that Law is not binding on Christians, it does contain valuable principles that can help us to lead a happy life.—Leviticus 19:18; Deuteronomy 6:5-7. For more information on this and more please visit jworg
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Old/Original
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The original one.
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The problem with the Old Testament is nobody believes in it. Jews have their own version which is significantly different from the Christian version and Christians say Jesus's words overrule whatever the OT prophets said, especially the Laws of Moses😇. So, literally, there are no believers in the Old Testament. lol - Except Jesus who drew his teaching from the Old Testament. lol
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the original
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II Timothy 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” The Bible is to be taken literally whenever and wherever possible, however, when it fails to be true to fact, it is always a figure of speech. A common misconception is that the entire Bible is written to us. This is not true. archive.org/details/powerforabundant00wier/page/206 All that was written before the day of Pentecost is for our learning. Romans 15:4 “For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.” If a believer reads the Epistles that are addressed to us (Romans through Thessalonians) and then reads the book of Acts, he will likely be beside himself with surprise and joy.
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The Sacred Scriptures, as a collection from Genesis to Revelation, form one complete book, one complete library, all inspired by the one Supreme Author. They should not be divided into two parts, so that one part is given less value. The Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Greek Scriptures are essential to each other. The latter supplements the former to make the one complete book of divine truth. The 66 Bible books, all together, form the one library of the Holy Scriptures.—Rom. 15:4. “ALL Scripture is inspired of God.” These words at 2 Timothy 3:16 identify God, whose name is Jehovah, as the Author and Inspirer of the Holy Scriptures. How satisfyingly delightful the inspired Scriptures are! What an amazing fund of true knowledge they provide! They are indeed “the very knowledge of God” that has been sought after and treasured by lovers of righteousness in all ages.—Prov. 2:5. For more information please visit wwwjworg
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The original
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